tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29223331.post966162720633832322..comments2024-01-24T11:15:02.475-06:00Comments on Sen Sen No Sen: Poor, Persecuted PersecutorsPBIhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05643553811799195520noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29223331.post-59461648723723599852008-12-08T20:59:00.000-06:002008-12-08T20:59:00.000-06:00Hey PBI,It never ceases to amaze me how groups tha...Hey PBI,<BR/><BR/>It never ceases to amaze me how groups that have historically been the subject of some of the worst discrimination in the world (Jews, Mormons) have then 'recovered' and gone on to commit the same kinds of things against other groups. You think they would have learned something from the intolerance and bigotry against them to be a little more compassionate towards their fellow humans. And then when the inevitable backlash happens they run around crying like babies about the meanies who are picking on them!<BR/><BR/>As for Chardonnay, the fastest growing group of new infections of HIV/AIDS is ... drum roll ... black heterosexuals. Yup. And if 16,000 seems like a big number to you, we should outlaw driving as well since over 40,000 people are killed in traffic accidents every year. Okay?lokywokyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161829557049639875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29223331.post-20497038514808077352008-12-07T13:26:00.000-06:002008-12-07T13:26:00.000-06:00Hi hmr,Thanks for stopping by. I think YOU hit th...Hi hmr,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping by. I think <B>YOU</B> hit the nail on the head. : )<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/>PBIPBIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05643553811799195520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29223331.post-21469651917894432722008-12-06T20:49:00.000-06:002008-12-06T20:49:00.000-06:00I think you hit the nail on the head, so to speak....I think you hit the nail on the head, so to speak. That's the problem here -- people think it's 'icky.' There's no coherent argument so it just comes down to the ick-factor.<BR/>Writing 'ick' into the constitution seems kinda dumb to me.hmrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10219623507407795069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29223331.post-18907695448917394092008-12-06T14:31:00.000-06:002008-12-06T14:31:00.000-06:00Yes, all the people voted, but that vote was massi...Yes, all the people voted, but that vote was massively affected by the $40 million of out-of-state money poured into the election by the Mormons. Per the survey linked in my post, 8% of the people who voted would change their vote, now that they have had time to reflect on it, and Prop 8 would not pass if it were voted on today. Further, there is a very strong indication that Prop 8 violates California's own constitution by using the legislative process to deny equal rights. Judges are there to ensure that the rules are followed, and if you are sick of having initiatives that violate the rules overturned, then stop backing initiatives that abrogate basic civil rights and civil liberties.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure what the fact that the leading cause of AIDS is male-to-male sexual contact has to do with gay marriage. Are you saying that, because gay marriage - which would reinforce monogamy by the way, and can therefore be counted on to diminish HIV transmission - is outlawed, homosexual sex will no longer occur? Seriously? Because that's what you seem to be implying. Further, the <A HREF="http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/resources/qa/prevalence.htm" REL="nofollow">second leading source</A> of HIV transmission in America is heterosexual sex. What does that mean for your position? I guess now that California has - to your logic - knocked out the leading cause of HIV transmission with Prop 8, the Golden State can now move on to getting after the number two cause: heterosexual marriage.<BR/><BR/>This isn't a health issue; if it were, tobacco, alcohol and fatty foods would be illegal. And to answer your question about outlawing homosexual sex, so-called sodomy laws have been overturned repeatedly as unconstitutional. Prop 8 is about denying consenting, tax-paying adults the rights that the rest of us already enjoy. The graph at the top of my post perfectly expresses the consequences of gay marriage. The only thing that happens is that gays marry. <BR/><BR/>That's it; sorry you think it's icky.<BR/><BR/>PBIPBIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05643553811799195520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29223331.post-67784375191418338962008-12-06T13:45:00.000-06:002008-12-06T13:45:00.000-06:00ALL the people voted, not just Mormons. Gays need ...ALL the people voted, not just Mormons. Gays need to get over it and accept it. People are sick and tired of initiatives being overturned by a Judge when they were passed overwhelmingly. 80% is a huge statement. Stop trying to invent ways to get your own way. These people act like spoiled children. <BR/><BR/>Answer me this, blogger dude, why should we make gay marriage legal when according to the CDC homosexual sex is the leading cause of AID'S? It seems to me that, behavior leads to disease is BAD behavior. We make people wear seatbelts. We passed no smoking laws, trans fat laws, helmet laws, etc....how many people died from not wearing a helmet last year? 100? <BR/><BR/>So why are we not outlawing gay sex if 16,000 people die of aids each year?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com